I've never shot worse ammo in all my life. HSM Ammunition is reloads made by the Montana Police Dept. I went to Dave's Sports Shop the other day and asked for the cheapest .45 ACP ammunition. So I walked out of there with a box of HSM loads and a box of Russian imported Wolf ammo. When I went to the range I loaded up with HSM and shot about 3 groups of 5 on a life size target of Osama at 20 Yards. I can tell you that I have never shot worse groups in all my life! What I got was wild random patterns of about a 12" radius... At 20 yards! After the third group I got a little suspicious of the ammo, when I closely examined the bullets I noticed that on one side of the shells they were crimped BELOW where the lead was, denting the brass. I also noticed that the lead was not inserted into the shell evenly, which is probably the reason for the denting. Then I loaded up with wolf ammo and shot about 3" to 5" groups at 20 Yards does that say enough for you? One problem with the Wolf ammo though is the steel casings are no good for reloading.